Difficult one this, I can't support either team. Might not even watch the game. Zenit's fans are scum and the team are bankrolled by some big shitty oil company, and I just can't support rangers. It's like being asked would you like your right or left eye poked out with a hot poker.

Maybe best scenario is Zenit win, nacho novo breaks his legs, the zenit fans crash/drown on the way home, and Hadrian's wall is rebuilt while the huns are away. What are the chances of that happening?

Being a Celtic fan as well, anyone is better than the Rangers winning. I would like to see them not only lose but get crushed in the process.

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(In the bottom right picture. Is the sieg heiling hun behind the star of david flag displaying terribly biting ironic wit? the game was being played in Israel. What a wag)

heard a rumour that wattie-naccio has instructed the anti football club to keep it tight for the first 120 minutes then go for it

FROM THE BBC WEBSITE:

THE FANS

Zenit's most high-profile supporter is new Russian president Dmitry Medvedev, who trained as a lawyer in the city and was once an assistant professor at St Petersburg State University.

According to some historians, composer Dmitri Shostakovich was also a huge Zenit fan who attended games on a regular basis.

They also have an impressive 16,000 season-ticket holders, which is almost three-quarters of their stadium's capacity.

Unfortunately the club also have a hard core of racists among their supporters. Zenit are the only club in Russia never to have signed a black player, and their fans were accused of racist taunts during the Uefa Cup win over Marseille earlier this season.

Marseille defender Ronald Zubar said: "They threw a banana at us and made monkey sounds."

Manager Dick Advocaat has even admitted that the fans' attitude has affected his transfer policy.

"The problem is our fans," he says. "I would be happy to sign anyone but the fans don't like black players.

"I don't understand how they could pay so much attention to skin colour. For me, there's no difference between white, black or red.

"But the fans are the most important thing Zenit have. That's why, in future, I have to ask them outright how they'll react if we sign a dark-skinned player.

"If the fans don't agree with me, I won't do it. I won't buy a player who won't be accepted by the fans."

Have Zenit had any UEFA charge at all? I find the above quotes utterly astonishing and it doesn't say much for Dick Advocaat's morals.

A more detailed article in today's Times, which does give a possible - and I stress the word possible - explanation for Advocaat's transfer policy.

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Couple of things.

First, don't usually care for Scottish football, but really can't stand Rangers. Every time you see a shirt or car sticker down here, you usually know that the wearer is a right wing shit. Bollocks to all that loyalist, monarchist, nationalist crap.

Secondly, can anyone confirm something I read years ago - that the "Billy's Boys" song isn't a reference to William of Orange, but a reference to a gang leader of the 1930s who'd affiliated themselves to the British Union of Fascists?

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can anyone confirm something I read years ago - that the "Billy's Boys" song isn't a reference to William of Orange, but a reference to a gang leader of the 1930s who'd affiliated themselves to the British Union of Fascists?

Correct Chris. One Billy Fullarton of Brigton in Glasgow. Here's what Wikipedia has to say:

The term 'Billy Boys' is usually assumed to refer to "King Billy" (William III of England), but has its origins in the 1920s, as the signature tune of a Protestant street gang led by Fullerton during a time of upsurge in gang membership and violent crime in Glasgow. The "Billy Boys" often had fights with Catholic gangs such as the "Norman Conks". Fullerton was a former member of the British Fascists, and was awarded a medal for strike-breaking during the 1926 General Strike.

The song's geographic roots relate to Bridgeton Cross in Bridgeton, an area of Glasgow historically associated with the city's Protestant population, and with Loyalism. "Brigton" is the old Scots form of Bridgeton. "Fenian" in the context of this song is understood by some to refer to Irish republicans, and by others to all Irish Roman Catholics—the BBC website describes it as an "anti-Roman Catholic song". The highly controversial song remains popular among loyalists today particularly with some supporters of Rangers yet the song is no longer heard in full force at Rangers home and away football matches.

The background to the final sentence, of course is that they were fined by UEFA for singing it and there have been suggestions (though it seems unlikely) that the SFA may also impose sanctions on them (after years of turning a blind ear and/or joining in until embarrassed into action by UEFA).

I won't taint this site with the lyrics but for anyone interested who doesn't know them, they are on

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and it doesn't say much for Dick Advocaat's morals.

Indeed. Whatever his own personal beliefs I'm not sure I'd want him stood next to me on the barricades!

Still, what can you expect from someone named after some poncey yellow 1970s drink favoured by great-aunts at Christmas and Peter Wyngarde wannabes!

Well they've just lost. Good

Looking at the picture of the team after they won the UEFA cup they seemed to have at least 2 Asian players in the team.

Saddened - but not surprised - to hear the

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this morning of battles in Manchester last night. After all the reports of partying and carnival atmospheres throughout the day yesterday I thought the Huns had finally learned to travel in a friendly manner. Silly me.

Don't be too surprised if allegations of a conspiracy to besmirch the "good name" of Rangers FC come out later. "They turned the screen off to force us to trash the place", or something along those lines.

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Don't be too surprised if allegations of a conspiracy to besmirch the "good name" of Rangers FC come out later. "They turned the screen off to force us to trash the place", or something along those lines.

There have been some great ones over the years, for example the Englishmen, supposedly Chelsea fans, overhead speaking with cockney accents and wearing blue reported lurking on the outskirts of Aberdeen prior to some boxing at Pittodrie. The English thing cropped up again, with England fans wearing England shirts copping flak for some hun unpleasantness, conveniently ignoring the fact that Ranger's perverted sense of loyalism sent the English national shirt to the top of the sales league in Scotland for a while. Their ex head of security, an ex plod as I remember, even blamed violence at their games on West Ham's ICF firm, blissfully unaware that the Rangers mob had plagiarised the ICF name several years before.

However, my personal favourite was the noise (Derry's Walls) at the end of a game in a behind closed doors San Siro being attributed by the BBC Scotland correspondent to the young Italian ball boys.

the bouncy bouncy that the ITV commentators were praising the fans for is actually about jumping on a catholics head

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the bouncy bouncy that the ITV commentators were praising the fans for is actually about jumping on a catholics head

Read I think on the bbc website them praising Rangers fans for their support. Surely this "bouncy bouncy" thing isn't true? Any proof to this?