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FC St. Pauli vs RW Ahlen

 
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boogey



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: FC St. Pauli vs RW Ahlen Reply with quote

Good news: Trojan AND Brunnemann might be available for the game according to the Fc's homepage. Especially Flip is desperately needed - Hennings might get a timeout to regain some form (that's what I would do at least) and although Sako has only seen 10 minutes or so in Freiburg, it was his best performance of the season (ok, he didn't get that many chances anyways - but nevertheless). So there might be a slight possibility to see Lude or even Sako instead of Ebbers who didn't do anything really on Monday.
Ahlen will be defending with 11 players for the first 70 min. that's what they did against Aachen and Duisburg and it worked seemingly well for them. Expect a tough game....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't look like I'll be able to escape in time to get there for kick-off. Mad

If Ahlen play like they did in their 4(!) away wins so far, expect them to let us run at them and try to counter, stepping up the pressure towards the end.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREAT SUPPORT coming across tonight, brilliant, but UTTTERLY NAIVE & CRINGEWORTHY to sing YNWA before & whilst he was taking the pen .. also horrible to celebrate the award of the pen with the old pelvic waist- hug & salute to the crowd before it was even scored....

The miss/save was almost inevitable after that.

Finished 2-2 if anyone doesn't know, that was the h-t score [0-1, 0-2, 1-2, 2-2] great 2nd half with 10 men, storming last quarter attacking the otherwise brilliant Sudkurve, but that YNWA when the penno was awarded a couple of mins from the end was WELL out of order.... totally naive support that doesn't help the penno taker at all


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree entirely with the above. I hate it when players celebrate winning penalties - we pretty much deserved to miss after that. Keep a lid on it until the ball hits the back of the net.

That said the support was terrific as always!

I missed most of the second-half, but I think I'm happy with the point!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nico 4 wrote:
I agree entirely with the above. I hate it when players celebrate winning penalties - we pretty much deserved to miss after that. Keep a lid on it until the ball hits the back of the net.



Is there a bit in your book about this deplorable trend ? (don't wory, I'll be getting one anyway)

Not only wrapping his legs around his team-mate's waist, but pumping a fist to the crowd. Just for winning an as-yet-uncoverted pen.

If it wasn't a St. Pauli player, I would want that photo and I would want to spread it all over the net as an example of the evils of modern footy.

Hope to heck they aren't given a bonus for winning pens. Wouldn't surprise me these days.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually a St. Pauli tradition* to sing YNWA at penalties. It never bothered Thomas Meggle. Of course, Rouwen Hennings is no Thomas Meggle. Rolling Eyes

*Something the fans have been doing for at least 4 years.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trojan should have taken the peno as a wise head to bring calm to the celebration that had gone before a ball was kicked.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zim - looking forward to your report as always. I saw the goals in the first half (which I really enjoyed in the usual tospy-turvey St Pauli way of things - 0-2 after 31 minutes at home - aaaaaaaargh Rolling Eyes )

I don't mind the singing of YNWA before pens, it sounded pretty inspiring. But celebrating a pen, is just not on. I'm sure Stani will have a quiet word. Wink

What happened with the sending off? Missed that.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The highlights of the match from DSF:
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nige wrote:
Nico 4 wrote:
I agree entirely with the above. I hate it when players celebrate winning penalties - we pretty much deserved to miss after that. Keep a lid on it until the ball hits the back of the net.



Is there a bit in your book about this deplorable trend ? (don't wory, I'll be getting one anyway)

Not only wrapping his legs around his team-mate's waist, but pumping a fist to the crowd. Just for winning an as-yet-uncoverted pen.

If it wasn't a St. Pauli player, I would want that photo and I would want to spread it all over the net as an example of the evils of modern footy.

Hope to heck they aren't given a bonus for winning pens. Wouldn't surprise me these days.


It's called hubris. Tempting the wrath of the gods by taking things for granted. Overweening pride leading to nemesis. Big in Shakespeare's day. That's William not Robbie (for reggae fans)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

exactly Les , and missing the penalty was what you may call "poetic justice"
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was almost the game of the season so far. It had its downs and ups (in that order), lots of nice actions on both sides, and very nearly a happy ending.

Stani made 2 changes from the disappointing performance in Freiburg: Hoilett was on for Hennings, and Schultz had to make way for Trojan. There were nearly 22000 in attendance, including about 300 from Ahlen.

I managed to get in about 12 minutes after the start, and apparently only missed a good chance from Rothenbach, whose shot through 2 Ahleners' legs was caught by Lenz in the 8th minute. So I'd got to my position just in time to see an Ahlen free kick in the 14th minute. The free kick decision, like many of the 6-(sorry, 20)-year-old referee's, may have been a bit dodgy, but the kick itself wasn't. It was perfectly placed, over the wall and in at the top left, and although Hain got his fingertips to it, you can't blame him.

You could see why Ahlen were the best newly-promoted side in the league and had such a good away record; their counter-attacks had obviously been trained to near perfection, and their defence was fairly solid. Although St. Pauli tried to come back, they didn't manage much until the 30th minute, when a long shot from Bruns went past the right post.

Just a minute later, we were 2 down, after a brilliant, defence-splitting pass from Hoithoelter, who had scored from the free kick, put Grosskreutz through into the penalty area, and he ran past Hain, who was too slow to come off his line, and slotted in from the left.

Was that it? Was Fortress Millerntor about to be finally taken at the 7th attempt this season? It certainly looked like it, and the atmosphere was very subdued (apart from the Ultras, who would probably lalala their way through a forthcoming meteor strike) - for about 4 minutes.

Then Ludwig, whose standards were crap again, ran forward from the centre circle on the left and passed in to Ebbers, whose first shot was blocked by Lenz, but managed to score on the rebound, knocking it in at the far post while Lenz was still getting up. Now the team was back, and the fans were back, and Ahlen knew it.

Hoilett just missed the equaliser a couple of minutes later, with a wonderfully cheeky flick 8 yards out on the left, which went just past the right post, but we got it in the 42nd minute. Lenz underestimated a Trojan free kick from the right, which hit the left post, and Bruns got to it first, shooting in on the left. Even Doering's attempt to fist the ball off the line didn't help. Very Happy

2-2 at half time, advantage St. Pauli, at least psychologically.

The advantage didn't last long though, as with less than 5 minutes of the second half played, Ebbers, who had already picked up a yellow for dissent, tugged at Miletic's shirt in the centre circle, in full view of the referee, and got his marching orders. Stupid, stupider, St. Pauli. Rolling Eyes

Some of you may remember that Miletic played for us for a couple of seasons in the dark days of the Regionalliga, and had the honour of being sent off against Osnabrueck by corrupt ex-ref Robert Hoyzer, in one of the games he fixed. Hoyzer is now out of prison, but is unlikely to visit Millerntor in the near or distant future.

Anyway, you would have thought that Ahlen would have seized the advantage and put us under pressure, but quite the opposite. St. Pauli rose to the occasion, and pinned them back into their own half for pretty much the rest of the game. Shocked

After 15 minutes without a forward, Sako came on for Hoilett. I'd have put Schnitzler on instead, but that's Stani's decision. Brunnemann came on for Ludwig in the 75th, and Hennings replaced Bruns in the 81st.

Three minutes before time, Miletic grabbed Sako's arm after a Trojan free kick, causing him to unnaturally rotate, and the ref gave a penalty. Trojan apparently said afterwards that he was too knackered to trust himself with it, which I can believe, so Hennings stepped up. The guy next to me told his brat to "get ready to celebrate", so I had to slip in an "...or not!" True enough, Hennings' shot, low and right, was deflected for a corner - a great save from Lenz which made up for his screwup with the equaliser.

The last chance of the game came from a Trojan corner, with Eger's header headed off the line, but honestly, a win would have been too good to be true. Still, after yet another game in which we were a man down for over 40 minutes and got so close to getting 3 points, it's looking good. If only we could translate that determination not to lose at home into a willingness to kick arse away, it could be so much better. Maybe next season.

We're now 7th, which is more or less where we belong, and with 4 games to go before the winter break we already have 20 points, so it looks pretty good from the not getting relegated point of view. The next game is Sunday against league leaders Mainz, after which we will still have 20 points... ermm, at least. Laughing

St. Pauli - better than Nürnberg, not as good as Freiburg.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebbers goal was great. That's the way to follow your shot. The second goal was just as nice. The penalty shot look weak on the highlights. They had their chances to win. They showed heart and battled back from being down by two. I'll take a point but three would have been nicer.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should the Ahlen player who handled the ball at the second goal not have been at least booked. You often see refs allow play to continue after a foul and then deal with an offence, so it's not as if he'd have needed to disallow the goal and award a penalty.

Perhaps he couldn't have give a red for preventing a goal scoring opportunity, as although he tried he failed, but I think it should have been a yellow.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmalloy wrote:

Perhaps he couldn't have give a red for preventing a goal scoring opportunity, as although he tried he failed, but I think it should have been a yellow.


There was a yellow. actually, there was a yellow for almost anyone on the field, a true miracle that no more people were sent off. Actually the ref gave yellow cards for the most stupid things, while some "real" things just resulted in a free kick.

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