Having read the chapter on Hamburg in European Football Rough Guide we decided to take a look and see for ourselves, and like everyone says once you've been you can't escape.

Doing well so far having seen a few games over last 6 or 7 seasons. At one stage I thought I'd never see them score having endured 2 or 3 0-0's & several drubbings before finally managing a 2-2 draw in the pre break game v wattenscheid 2 years ago and almost getting the first win but denied by a late Hertha ams equaliser in the summer.

Pressures of being a new home owner may restrict my visits for a while but I'll be back soon, somehow!!!

Good to see the familiar faces returning! Trust the rest of the Bury Boys are well.
I'll have to check the Bury fixtures and make a trip up to the North West soon. Maybe the rearranged game against close friends Rochdale

good to see you again, 06-02-02

I was in Rochdale last week, and really looking forward to the derby v Bury, so imagine my disappointment when it was called off...

Myself and DJAsh were doing a sponsored walk from Gigg Lane to Spotland, we were well over half way when the halfwits from Dale called it off. Carried on and had a beer or two though on the way. We weren't best pleased either Petrushka!!!

Nice drop of Saddlers Dark Mild in the Bird in Hand though.

Do any of you Bury fans know about a song called something like "Brian Turner's Cafe"? I heard this on a live recording somebody sent me from Austin Texas. I've been trying to find out who it was who wrote it but he is obviously a Bury fan.
It was about someone who was taken prisoner by the Japanese in WW2 and how his faith in Bury Football Club helped him make it through. Top song.
I did find out that Brian Turner was a Bury player who opened a cafe ibn the town after he retired from football but still don't know who did the song.

This is bizarre VV. I wrote the song ("Brian Turner's Rosamar Cafe") and, as far as I was aware, I'm the only one to have performed it. Could this mean there are royalties due to me? I have spent time in Austin, TX and have many friends there, so there could be a mutual connection which would explain things. The song has never been commercially released (at least not by me!) so it's all a bit weird. The lyrics have been printed in Chris Bainbridge's Bury fanzine "The Hatchet". Please tell me more.
Stuart.

Will get back to my mate to ask him where he got it from. It is live though (there is some audience noise) and it sounds like a northern English accent singing). Most of the other stuff on the disc is by Texas songwriters and a lot of the songs are quite political. I hadn't realised that a place like Texas could be so 'left-field.' Have you heard of someone called Butch Hancock? There's also a great song by Tom Patcheco called "Not In My Name" which is a great anti-war protest song. I also have some stuff he sent me a couple of years ago by someone called Terry Allen which is very good too.
By the way, have you got a proper recording of the "Brian Turner" song that I could buy?

The University of Texas in Austin has been (in)famous for years as the largest library of "autonomist" (a late 60's, early '70s variant of popular Italian anarcho-syndicalism) related literature in the world.

If I remember correctly this is largely due to Harry Cleaver who wrote the text "Reading Marx Politically" which traces the antecedents of the New Left through the likes of CLR James, Saccho and Vanzetti and so on until Toni Negri. Cleaver was a Professor there when he wrote this book, and I believe he's now working with the Zapatistas...

Sometimes not even I can always be bored with the USA

Texas is full of contradictions. Ardently Redneck Republican on one hand though also has some radical history (particularly Austin). I know Butch Hancock's material fairly well and, yes he can be pretty political. He has a new album, "War and Peace" out which I have on order and have yet to hear. He was one of the legendary Flatlanders (along with Joe Ely, famous outside Texas for his collaboration with The Clash, and Jimmie Dale Gilmore, who had a part in the Coen brothers' "The Big Lebowski."
Tom Pacheco (no 't') is actually from Massachusetts but did live in Austin for a while. I've played support slots to Tom a couple of times and he really is one of the nicest human beings I've ever met. He turned 60 a few months ago but is just as militant as ever. The song you mentioned is on an album called 'Rebel Spring' which came out a couple of years ago.

(I've just realised that this posting would have been better placed in the Music part of the forum!)

Sorry VivaVale, I missed your last question. I do have a recorded version of the song and if you PM me with your e-mail address, I'd get a copy off to you. Thanks for the interest.
(Incidentally, someone from Germany approached me recently to ask if I'd be interested in the song appearing on a compilation of football related songs. I'm not sure whether anything will come of it though).

Shakers wrote:

Sorry VivaVale, I missed your last question. I do have a recorded version of the song and if you PM me with your e-mail address, I'd get a copy off to you. Thanks for the interest. (Incidentally, someone from Germany approached me recently to ask if I'd be interested in the song appearing on a compilation of football related songs. I'm not sure whether anything will come of it though).

Many thanks, I'd love a copy. I'm moving back to Madrid in a couple of weeks but I'll be to-ing and fro-ing to Stoke for a while (PM on it's way).
Thanks for correcting my spelling. Found this; seems he's quite famous as a protest singer!

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Who was the guy who did the song about the wall across the Mexican border? The lyrics are about how the US Govt is planning to build a wall to stop immigration from Mexico but he points out that if they send the Mexicans back, there will be no cheap manual labour left to build it! Fantastic stuff some of that Americana music! And a million miles away from Redneck music.

VivaVale wrote:

Who was the guy who did the song about the wall across the Mexican border? The lyrics are about how the US Govt is planning to build a wall to stop immigration from Mexico but he points out that if they send the Mexicans back, there will be no cheap manual labour left to build it! Fantastic stuff some of that Americana music! And a million miles away from Redneck music.

"Who's Gonna Build Your Wall?" is a Tom Russell song. Great lyrics! "....as I travel through this country, the one thing I most fear; is a white man in a golf-shirt with a cellphone at his ear." It was getting quite a bit of airplay (surprisingly) on BBC Radio 2 last year.
Yes, you're right about Americana and Alt-country being a million miles from the archetypal Redneck image. In a way, that's how it came about, as well as being a movement against the Nashville major label, corporate machine.

Yes, I heard the song on Bob Harris's show. Great stuff. There's a tendency for Europeans to forget that there are Americans with a social conscience. They do seem to be a small minority though unfortunately and now that Bush has moved the goal-posts regarding freedom (even in contravention of the US constitution) we'll probably hear even less of the 'voices of reason' from across the pond. Steve Earle has been quite outspoken in his views and I remember all the shit the Dixie Chicks got when they said their bit (not keen on their music though I have to admit, but their heart's must be in the right place).

Back to The Shakers; I'd forgot you had Casper Schmeichel on loan for a while; how's he doing now he's gone to Falkirk?
Sorry to hear you lost Dwayne Mattis to Barnsley, he looked very promising!