Along with the match report (Hearts v Celtic) in Monday's Scotman newspaper was a paragraph relating to a rendition of The Boys of old Brigade and a couple of chants of Ooh Ah Up the RA from a section of the visiting support, plus a retaliatory Billy Boys from some Hearts fans in the main stand closest to the Celtic end. Such exchanges suggested that Rangers will not be the only Scottish club subjected to the anti-sectarian attentions of UEFA.

Rangers have already been punished and UEFA will not hesitate to act again. Why is it some fans are determined to damage the image of our clubs and hinder our European progress?

Every club has these idiots - but at least you're trying to do something about it Brido. Keep up the good work

By the way, looks like your chums from Easter Road have a similar problem...

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I know it's the Edinburgh festival but it's not the idiot festival. More clowns I'm afraid.

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the boys of the old brigade is not a secterian song it is political as is the part in the celtic symphony of up the ra.
once again i admire your stance against fascism especially when your own fans stand there giving the fascist salute singing anti catholic songs i cant help feel that you will be banging your head against a wall and as you said more than rangers will be looked at,
fucks sake you have fans from croatia poland and germany making fuckin human swastikas at football as well as anti catholic,jewish,asian chants and banners.and we are to believe that we will be thrown out of the leauge because we sing irish songs of rebellion are they going to ban athletic bilboa for being too political,livorno for being communist and singing about castro.
celtic is an irish club and a scottish institution we are proud of our club and the way our support over the years has shown solidarity with oppressed nations and stood against the right fightin fascism everywhere
celtic~st pauli
the rebels choice
tiocfaidh ar la

I was merely mentioning the report by Stuart Bathgate in the Scotsman newspaper.
Whether the songs are regarded sectarian or political it's up to UEFA to see if they are deemed fit enough to sing at football matches. This could be disastrous, whether we are Scottish, Irish, Spanish or Italian.

People really need come back to reality over all this rather than take the sensationalist tabloid-esque route.

No-one if going to get relegated or punished for singing Republican songs, no-one is going to get punished for singing that some group are gay, and no-one is going to get punished for singing they are up to their knees in the oppositions blood - however distasteful that last two are.

You seem to be quite sure about this c-r. You obviously know something I don't.

I was wondering - so excuse any ignorance on my part - has there been a marked increase in the Sectarian chanting and general abuse, or is it just because I'm reading about it more on here? Maybe because stories are getting posted it seems to be on the increase, whereas before I didn't hear so much about it.

pissed off christophe wrote:

I was wondering - so excuse any ignorance on my part - has there been a marked increase in the Sectarian chanting and general abuse, or is it just because I'm reading about it more on here? Maybe because stories are getting posted it seems to be on the increase, whereas before I didn't hear so much about it.

In my opinion it's probably better now, certainly not any worse in general, although a lot of English BNP types have latched onto Rangers and to an extent Hearts. These people know little about the history or traditions of the clubs but just want to get involved in the anti-Irish factor.

I honestly don't think it's increased. I'm just making more noise about it with my anti bigotry campaign. The media don't like us because Romanov stands up to them (ok he is a bit crazy) so they give us a lot of bad press at the mo, but hey such is life.
I got another call from talk 107 to chat live on air yesterday regarding The Paul Hartley story doing the rounds. Apparently he was asked by a fanzine about 10 years ago which fans he disliked, Paul being a Celtic fan said Rangers and supposedly called them orange bastards. I phoned my (dyed in the wool jambo) cousin in Edinburgh to speak to him about it and he simply answered well they are.
The BNP have been hanging around Ibrox for years. No matter if they are squirming about Ibrox, Tynie, the Bridge or anywhere else, if they are not on club property they can't do anything about the bastards.
They are just trying to cash in on the anti Irish, anti anything that's not white English Protestant. They are going to have a field day with all the migrant workers news in the media at the moment.

For those who haven't followed the Paul Hartley thing, here's some information

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Notice it was the Celtic fans chanting and the Hearts fans singing 'the Billy Boys' was merely retaliatory ? These people don't even realise they're doing it...........but of course I'm paranoid.

2nd post links to an article about Hibs fans. What do I find in the article but this gem........'or the crackdown Rangers and Celtic are making at the behest of UEFA on sectarian behaviour at Ibrox and Parkhead'. Strangely enough, one of those 2 teams has not been in trouble with UEFA over sectarianism at all.

JudasLundy wrote:

Notice it was the Celtic fans chanting and the Hearts fans singing 'the Billy Boys' was merely retaliatory ? These people don't even realise they're doing it...........but of course I'm paranoid. 2nd post links to an article about Hibs fans. What do I find in the article but this gem........'or the crackdown Rangers and Celtic are making at the behest of UEFA on sectarian behaviour at Ibrox and Parkhead'. Strangely enough, one of those 2 teams has not been in trouble with UEFA over sectarianism at all.

Indeed JudasLunday, but the media and others in this country have to bracket us in with Rangers at all costs- the 'ones as bad as each other' tag is simply a nonsense but one we are treated to time after time after time............

That's the reason why many of us Celtic fans are at pains to distance ourself from the 'Old Firm' tag.

celtic_rebel wrote:

Indeed JudasLunday, but the media and others in this country have to bracket us in with Rangers at all costs- the 'ones as bad as each other' tag is simply a nonsense but one we are treated to time after time after time............ That's the reason why many of us Celtic fans are at pains to distance ourself from the 'Old Firm' tag.

Oh dear, posts like the above really make me despair.

What chance has Scottish football have of ridding itself of bigotry when some Celtic supporters seem incapable of admitting that their club has a problem with bigots. It's unfortunate that every other Club in Scotland who have sampled the delights of the Old firm and Hearts away support view our three clubs as the most bigoted in Scotland.

Are you suggesting everybody else is wrong and the Celtic fans are just misunderstood?

jambokam wrote:

It's unfortunate that every other Club in Scotland who have sampled the delights of the Old firm and Hearts away support view our three clubs as the most bigoted in Scotland.

And there lies the problem..........every other club in SCOTLAND.

How are the clubs viewed in Spain, Italy, France, Germany ?
Come to that, what about in England ? Who do Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal invite for the big testimonials ?

Wake up, Scotland has a problem.